Wilz
Oct 24, 09:02 AM
FINALLY!
credit card at the ready, macbook pro will be mine soon
credit card at the ready, macbook pro will be mine soon
fyrefly
Apr 20, 01:32 AM
We now have some actual game results now and it seems even worse than the 50% drop seen in the original review.
Instead of 50% of the performance of the 320M, we now have:
26% at a lower resolution in Wow
34% for Lost planet
Those numbers seem to suggest the ULV SAndy Bridge has even worse graphics performance than the previous generation Nvidia 9400M
Gaming performance. Not graphics performance. Don't confuse the two.
Engadget's review said the Intel IGP made short work of 1080p HD clips, so regarding pushing pixels (that aren't games) the HD 3000 seems on par at doing that as the 320m.
Also, I'd venture to day the HD 3000 graphics drivers are more advanced in OSX than they are in Windows.
The same mysterious drop in Gaming performance was seen in Windows vs. OSX in the Anandtech review of the 13" 2011 MBP (http://www.anandtech.com/show/4205/the-macbook-pro-review-13-and-15-inch-2011-brings-sandy-bridge/7):
"Under OS X, the new HD Graphics 3000 GPU is actually about the same performance or even faster than the 2010 13-inch's GeForce 320M. Remember that Apple does a lot of its own driver writing under OS X and the SNB GPU received some TLC from Apple in the form of very well optimized drivers."
And yes, I know the MBP uses a fully clocked IGP and the MBA probably won't.
But if even a fully clocked IGP sucks in Windows and works almost on par with the 320m in OSX, then I'd like to at least see the LV HD3000 benchmarks in OSX before making a final judgement.
it is only 29min. Not sure where you get almost 1 hour from. And it was measured in Windows, so I think this is the most comparable number. Mac OS is known to be better at using less power than Windows. From this, I'd say there would be a marginal increase in battery life by switching to Sandy Bridge - nothing major.
Hah. My bad. I was adding like adding, and not like time adding.
I'd take even a marginal increase in battery life, though, who wouldn't?
And I'd also venture to say that Apple's doing better at battery life than most other manufacturers. The 13" 2011 MBP added 10W to it's TDP and (like you say below) Sandy Bridge seems like it's sneaky with it's turbo boosting - and still the 2011 MBP gets better battery life than it's C2D+320m sibling from last year.
TDP is not the whole story .. for example the 2011 i7 2.3Ghz Sandy Bridge Quad Core is supposed to have a TDP of 45W, which is 10W more than the i7
2.66Ghz 2010 model. However, Anandtech measured the 2011 machine using almost 40W more running a CPU intensive task. Something is very weird about the Sandy Bridge TDP numbers.
Hmm, interesting, I hadn't seen that comparison yet (http://www.anandtech.com/show/4205/the-macbook-pro-review-13-and-15-inch-2011-brings-sandy-bridge/14).
The GPU must come into play in both those test, however... so 45W + 25W = 70W out of the 93W used are accounted for in TDP.
And the 13" MBP pulls 48W instead of it's 35W TDP. It's interesting.
I wish we had seen comparable numbers for the current MBA. Does it pull more than advertised under load? How much? If not, why not? Is turbo boost to blame?
My point was based purely on TDP and not high-end scenarios, the battery life should be longer. Wireless web surfing is how Apple measures it now - and I couldn't see the SL9400/9600+320m combo posting better battery numbers in a wireless web test than the i5/HD3000 combo? That leads me to say unless one was doing high-end Rendering with their MBA - the general web-surfing, itunes playing, facebook-checking Mac user will not see anymore than the ~20W TDP come into play, giving that user longer battery life, no?
Instead of 50% of the performance of the 320M, we now have:
26% at a lower resolution in Wow
34% for Lost planet
Those numbers seem to suggest the ULV SAndy Bridge has even worse graphics performance than the previous generation Nvidia 9400M
Gaming performance. Not graphics performance. Don't confuse the two.
Engadget's review said the Intel IGP made short work of 1080p HD clips, so regarding pushing pixels (that aren't games) the HD 3000 seems on par at doing that as the 320m.
Also, I'd venture to day the HD 3000 graphics drivers are more advanced in OSX than they are in Windows.
The same mysterious drop in Gaming performance was seen in Windows vs. OSX in the Anandtech review of the 13" 2011 MBP (http://www.anandtech.com/show/4205/the-macbook-pro-review-13-and-15-inch-2011-brings-sandy-bridge/7):
"Under OS X, the new HD Graphics 3000 GPU is actually about the same performance or even faster than the 2010 13-inch's GeForce 320M. Remember that Apple does a lot of its own driver writing under OS X and the SNB GPU received some TLC from Apple in the form of very well optimized drivers."
And yes, I know the MBP uses a fully clocked IGP and the MBA probably won't.
But if even a fully clocked IGP sucks in Windows and works almost on par with the 320m in OSX, then I'd like to at least see the LV HD3000 benchmarks in OSX before making a final judgement.
it is only 29min. Not sure where you get almost 1 hour from. And it was measured in Windows, so I think this is the most comparable number. Mac OS is known to be better at using less power than Windows. From this, I'd say there would be a marginal increase in battery life by switching to Sandy Bridge - nothing major.
Hah. My bad. I was adding like adding, and not like time adding.
I'd take even a marginal increase in battery life, though, who wouldn't?
And I'd also venture to say that Apple's doing better at battery life than most other manufacturers. The 13" 2011 MBP added 10W to it's TDP and (like you say below) Sandy Bridge seems like it's sneaky with it's turbo boosting - and still the 2011 MBP gets better battery life than it's C2D+320m sibling from last year.
TDP is not the whole story .. for example the 2011 i7 2.3Ghz Sandy Bridge Quad Core is supposed to have a TDP of 45W, which is 10W more than the i7
2.66Ghz 2010 model. However, Anandtech measured the 2011 machine using almost 40W more running a CPU intensive task. Something is very weird about the Sandy Bridge TDP numbers.
Hmm, interesting, I hadn't seen that comparison yet (http://www.anandtech.com/show/4205/the-macbook-pro-review-13-and-15-inch-2011-brings-sandy-bridge/14).
The GPU must come into play in both those test, however... so 45W + 25W = 70W out of the 93W used are accounted for in TDP.
And the 13" MBP pulls 48W instead of it's 35W TDP. It's interesting.
I wish we had seen comparable numbers for the current MBA. Does it pull more than advertised under load? How much? If not, why not? Is turbo boost to blame?
My point was based purely on TDP and not high-end scenarios, the battery life should be longer. Wireless web surfing is how Apple measures it now - and I couldn't see the SL9400/9600+320m combo posting better battery numbers in a wireless web test than the i5/HD3000 combo? That leads me to say unless one was doing high-end Rendering with their MBA - the general web-surfing, itunes playing, facebook-checking Mac user will not see anymore than the ~20W TDP come into play, giving that user longer battery life, no?
doctor-don
Apr 29, 07:31 PM
While looking up album info, I received a notice that some songs were now priced at $.69. None of the songs in the albums I was researching was priced that low.
Yep! Select songs. Not especially any big deal.
Yep! Select songs. Not especially any big deal.
G4DP
Mar 31, 03:26 PM
Team? OS X is actually developed by one guy in the boiler room who was actually fired years ago but still shows up to work... :rolleyes:
Sad thing is by the way this seems to be an accurate description of OS X development.
Sad thing is by the way this seems to be an accurate description of OS X development.
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juicedropsdeuce
Apr 28, 07:11 PM
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Hey, Jonny I've for CEO!!!! Not.
Looks like his brain went to England but he left his body behind to do some last minute 'designs'. Nice attention to detail, all you had to do was change the color, genius. :rolleyes:
Hey, Jonny I've for CEO!!!! Not.
Looks like his brain went to England but he left his body behind to do some last minute 'designs'. Nice attention to detail, all you had to do was change the color, genius. :rolleyes:
tigres
Apr 15, 08:50 PM
Hmmm. Can't get iPad updated, says that not compatible with the build.
Nice. :confused:
Too tired to even troubleshoot longer.
But for anyone who wants to give me a tip.
I restarted both iPad and iMac.
Deleted and Re downloaded ipsw
Hard reset iPad
No dice. Never JB btw.
Nice. :confused:
Too tired to even troubleshoot longer.
But for anyone who wants to give me a tip.
I restarted both iPad and iMac.
Deleted and Re downloaded ipsw
Hard reset iPad
No dice. Never JB btw.
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thefourthpope
Mar 31, 10:48 AM
I'm all for a new look, and the iCal UI is pretty awkward most of the time. But, as many have pointed out, this is just fugly. I can do without the faux leather. I get how that could work on an iPad, when you're holding the thing in your hands like a real calendar, but when operating on a monitor....I don't get it.
motulist
Aug 18, 06:56 PM
... was that what you were after?
No, that's the opposite of what I was after, that's the bug it has now. Sigh, this is exactly what I predicted, they added a bunch of new features but haven't fixed any of the major usability bugs and flaws it already has. Why does apple show iCal such contempt?
No, that's the opposite of what I was after, that's the bug it has now. Sigh, this is exactly what I predicted, they added a bunch of new features but haven't fixed any of the major usability bugs and flaws it already has. Why does apple show iCal such contempt?
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Waybo
Apr 5, 08:29 PM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5096/5593986754_67eb069933_b.jpg
The Celebrity Eclipse, tethered in the harbor at George Town, Grand Cayman, shot from the tender transporting us to shore.
ISO 100, 18 mm, 0 ev, f/7.1, 1/200
C&C welcome & appreciated.
The Celebrity Eclipse, tethered in the harbor at George Town, Grand Cayman, shot from the tender transporting us to shore.
ISO 100, 18 mm, 0 ev, f/7.1, 1/200
C&C welcome & appreciated.
iApples
May 1, 11:51 PM
Does this mean the US is going to stop pumping their oil? Or was that not part of the deal? ...
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peapody
Sep 16, 07:06 PM
Don't check my creatinine because it is going to be elevated!!!
Honeypig at Annandale VA. Korean BBQ open 24hours =)
Honeypig at Annandale VA. Korean BBQ open 24hours =)
extrafuzzyllama
Sep 15, 08:05 PM
picked up new ink for printer and an enclosure and two hdds
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6171/imagetm.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6171/imagetm.jpg
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netdog
Jul 12, 03:34 AM
I think that some of us may be overestimating the coolness of the player as the factor. While that worked in the early days, it may not now.
Apple has in their favor the fact that many people now have ripped CDs and bought protected music in Apple formats. If that base is solid enough, Urge won't fly, and hence there won't be a large installed base of protected WMA files in search of a player. If a significant number of Vista users are just starting their collection, or building on existing MP3s, there is a very strong chance that they will do the easiest thing and buy protected WMA files from Urge. This could spell disaster for Apple, particularly if Microsoft is willing to replace any protected AAC files in people's collections free of charge.
Finally, while in the early days of online music sales, it was the players and not the music downloads that drove the market, we are inevitably going to find that the players become the razor and the downloadable music the blades. Microsoft will probably price their player based on that model.
Apple has in their favor the fact that many people now have ripped CDs and bought protected music in Apple formats. If that base is solid enough, Urge won't fly, and hence there won't be a large installed base of protected WMA files in search of a player. If a significant number of Vista users are just starting their collection, or building on existing MP3s, there is a very strong chance that they will do the easiest thing and buy protected WMA files from Urge. This could spell disaster for Apple, particularly if Microsoft is willing to replace any protected AAC files in people's collections free of charge.
Finally, while in the early days of online music sales, it was the players and not the music downloads that drove the market, we are inevitably going to find that the players become the razor and the downloadable music the blades. Microsoft will probably price their player based on that model.
Intell
Apr 26, 05:39 PM
I have no idea what happened except Plutonius got lynched and isn't a WW. Are Chrmjenkins and Appleguy 321/123 okay? Are they Specials? I can't tell if I'm on the Detention Level of a Star Destroyer or on the bridge of the Enterprise D. :confused::confused:
The stories are best read when hi/drunk/tripping. appleguy and chrmjenkins' prominaint stance in the narritivies does not reflect their in game roles. Actually, I wrote up the first narrative then assigned the roles via random.org.
The stories are best read when hi/drunk/tripping. appleguy and chrmjenkins' prominaint stance in the narritivies does not reflect their in game roles. Actually, I wrote up the first narrative then assigned the roles via random.org.
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Surely
Sep 15, 07:36 PM
A new pet:
http://www.hexbug.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/296x/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/h/e/hexoriggrnfront_950x950_1_3.jpg
http://www.hexbug.com/skin/frontend/ifi/hexbug/images/sellpage/original/hexorigsellpagemast_742x159.jpg
http://www.hexbug.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/296x/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/h/e/hexoriggrnfront_950x950_1_3.jpg
http://www.hexbug.com/skin/frontend/ifi/hexbug/images/sellpage/original/hexorigsellpagemast_742x159.jpg
notjustjay
Apr 26, 02:16 PM
not everyone wants a dedicated home server that they load everything on and let it run 24 hours a day. We just have a MBA.... i'm not gonna load all my music on there and leave it plugged in 24 hours a day. Just not gonna happen.
Exactly. It's more than just the $5 for the app and the data cap/bandwidth issues. It is wear and tear on a machine that has to be left on 24/7. It is the hydro cost of running that machine 24/7 instead of turning it off when you go out (this alone may well add up to more than $20/year!) If you don't want your main machine on 24/7 then it is the cost of another Mac mini or NAS or other device to act as the server instead.
It is also wear and tear on your 2 TB drive that has to be on 24/7, as opposed to working more like a backup drive that's only activated occasionally to back up your music files. It is the hassle of ensuring AudioGalaxy and your server and your ISP internet connection are all up and running when you need them to be (dealing with power outages, internet outages, maintenance, restarts, software updates, etc.)
$20/year might well be worth it for the uptime and hydro considerations alone.
Exactly. It's more than just the $5 for the app and the data cap/bandwidth issues. It is wear and tear on a machine that has to be left on 24/7. It is the hydro cost of running that machine 24/7 instead of turning it off when you go out (this alone may well add up to more than $20/year!) If you don't want your main machine on 24/7 then it is the cost of another Mac mini or NAS or other device to act as the server instead.
It is also wear and tear on your 2 TB drive that has to be on 24/7, as opposed to working more like a backup drive that's only activated occasionally to back up your music files. It is the hassle of ensuring AudioGalaxy and your server and your ISP internet connection are all up and running when you need them to be (dealing with power outages, internet outages, maintenance, restarts, software updates, etc.)
$20/year might well be worth it for the uptime and hydro considerations alone.
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Peterkro
May 1, 10:11 PM
killed at a Mansion in Islamabad Pakistan
Interesting when seen in terms of NATO backing off about deliberate attempts to kill Daffy.
Interesting when seen in terms of NATO backing off about deliberate attempts to kill Daffy.
mrelwood
Apr 14, 10:07 AM
I think you are all wrong. On the BMW model names "ix" stands for a fuel injection engine and four-wheel drive. I believe there is an OS M coming for certain BMW models.
63dot
May 1, 11:28 PM
Good weekend for Obama. He got even with both Donald Trump and Osama bin Laden.
You think? :D
You think? :D
MacRumors
Apr 21, 10:10 PM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/21/samsung-files-patent-suits-against-apple-in-korea-japan-germany/)
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2011/04/21/230823-samsung_300.jpg
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2011/04/21/230823-samsung_300.jpg
DeathChill
Apr 23, 12:27 AM
So many people just love to see every issue from the Apple perspective. There are people who get paid for that. Should not you - as a consumer - care more about the gadget you want than Apple success?
You enjoy seeing every issue from the perspective of someone who wants Apple to fail.
Apple cares very deeply about their product, which is why they don't give in to every spec junkie who demands the latest and greatest immediately. The current chips don't give a usable battery life in Apple's eyes. If you want to get a phone that eats batteries that's your business, but Apple doesn't have an interest in developing anything like that.
Apple does not have to use two chips. They could just design separate phone for Verizon (just like iPhone 4) which does not support GSM. Not ideal but that's where technology is today. At least Verizon customers could enjoy iPhone 5 with LTE.
They would still have to use two chips as I understand it: one to support CDMA and then the other to support LTE.
You enjoy seeing every issue from the perspective of someone who wants Apple to fail.
Apple cares very deeply about their product, which is why they don't give in to every spec junkie who demands the latest and greatest immediately. The current chips don't give a usable battery life in Apple's eyes. If you want to get a phone that eats batteries that's your business, but Apple doesn't have an interest in developing anything like that.
Apple does not have to use two chips. They could just design separate phone for Verizon (just like iPhone 4) which does not support GSM. Not ideal but that's where technology is today. At least Verizon customers could enjoy iPhone 5 with LTE.
They would still have to use two chips as I understand it: one to support CDMA and then the other to support LTE.
drnen
Sep 30, 03:17 PM
This is exactly my experience in Brooklyn, NY. I'm considering going back to Verizon. How much does it cost o break the att contract?
175 minus 5 dollars for every month completed under contract. I just looked up that info myself last week :)
175 minus 5 dollars for every month completed under contract. I just looked up that info myself last week :)
Tastic Bycrom
Mar 31, 10:43 AM
The torn pages and stoplights against the leather are jarring.
I like the internal changes. I just hope they do something a little less silly with the toolbar.
I like the internal changes. I just hope they do something a little less silly with the toolbar.
milo
Jun 23, 04:32 PM
Aside from the whole "personal responsibility" debate, why doesn't Apple just allow cancel/refund of purchases as long as it is done before the download is finished (meaning it's impossible to use)?
Seems like a no brainer to me.
Seems like a no brainer to me.
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