hebbar77
03-26 04:19 PM
My guess:
They are just "touch *" in the directory containing 485 files. I stopped monitoring the STATUS of my 485 and got onto something fun!
They are just "touch *" in the directory containing 485 files. I stopped monitoring the STATUS of my 485 and got onto something fun!
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ndialani
10-28 07:31 PM
@ vikki76
Where is your case? I am sorry if you have already mentioned it before. If its TSC, please send me a message and I will give you the name of the officer. Please try to call around 4 PM tomrrow.
For all those who have sent me pvt. messages, I will mail you a copy of the letter I sent out to Secretary Napolatino and first lady in the evening today.
Hi Caliguy,
My case is stuck in Texas service center.
Opened SR on 9/8...reply....6 months wait
My spouse SR 9/8....reply....60 days wait
Filled #7001 form
Emailed to Ombudsman...no answer yet.
How can i reach IO .....help me out ....please
Thanks
Where is your case? I am sorry if you have already mentioned it before. If its TSC, please send me a message and I will give you the name of the officer. Please try to call around 4 PM tomrrow.
For all those who have sent me pvt. messages, I will mail you a copy of the letter I sent out to Secretary Napolatino and first lady in the evening today.
Hi Caliguy,
My case is stuck in Texas service center.
Opened SR on 9/8...reply....6 months wait
My spouse SR 9/8....reply....60 days wait
Filled #7001 form
Emailed to Ombudsman...no answer yet.
How can i reach IO .....help me out ....please
Thanks
misanthrope
10-03 11:58 AM
Did anyone notice that GCTest's only interest was to start a fight between EB2 and EB3 folks.
See how he opened up a thread and threw a match to light the fire so that everyone starts fighting amongst themselves and he did not post again in his own thread .
United we stand and divided we fall. This is true since life started and will be true until the end of time.
I noticed that. May be he/she is stuck in the traffic. :P
But I used this thread to voice my opinion about various issues.
See how he opened up a thread and threw a match to light the fire so that everyone starts fighting amongst themselves and he did not post again in his own thread .
United we stand and divided we fall. This is true since life started and will be true until the end of time.
I noticed that. May be he/she is stuck in the traffic. :P
But I used this thread to voice my opinion about various issues.
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rajuseattle
04-18 08:07 PM
Lets keep this thread to celebrate OP's Green Card and some inspiration for Hopeless EB-3 guys.
Krish: I agreed VISA recpature and not including dependents will help us a lot, but looking at the current political divisiveness and people focusing more on 2012 election cycle and the campaigning, noone going to touch this HOT POtato of legislative reforms for Legal immigration. Now considering wait until the formation of 113th US congress it is about 20 months time, so do u expect People who are qualified and getting an opportunity to get out of EB-3 mess should wait that long? People already waiting since 2002/2003 PDs and no sign of any legal relief from USCIS/DoS for this hopeless EB-3 india people. Once agian legit porting is the way out to come out of EB-3 india mess, their is no other solution for us. When you compare all retroigress classes EB-3 india is the worst, we are still in April 2002 as compared to other EB-3 categories which are now in July 2005 range. (china is exception to this they are way better than us to somewhere 2004 range). Please dont bring in this issue in this celebration thread, let people cheer something, we already had so many useless threads and verbal arguments on this subject.
Krish: I agreed VISA recpature and not including dependents will help us a lot, but looking at the current political divisiveness and people focusing more on 2012 election cycle and the campaigning, noone going to touch this HOT POtato of legislative reforms for Legal immigration. Now considering wait until the formation of 113th US congress it is about 20 months time, so do u expect People who are qualified and getting an opportunity to get out of EB-3 mess should wait that long? People already waiting since 2002/2003 PDs and no sign of any legal relief from USCIS/DoS for this hopeless EB-3 india people. Once agian legit porting is the way out to come out of EB-3 india mess, their is no other solution for us. When you compare all retroigress classes EB-3 india is the worst, we are still in April 2002 as compared to other EB-3 categories which are now in July 2005 range. (china is exception to this they are way better than us to somewhere 2004 range). Please dont bring in this issue in this celebration thread, let people cheer something, we already had so many useless threads and verbal arguments on this subject.
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getgreensoon1
04-19 11:26 AM
Just a 3 years in USA, getting a GC by porting into EB2 with a B.Com and some online degree!!!!!! What a pathetic situation for us!!!!!!!!!. Wake up USCIS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fully agree with each word you said. Many people with legit US education (not TVU kind that many not so educated people on this forum are taking shelter under the umbra of) who have been in the US for more than 10 years are still lawfully waiting in the line. And this idiot with a BCOM and MCA ( correspondence course from IGNOU) is dreaming of porting into EB2 and screw us up. Shame on USCIS and Shame on DOL. I am really concerned that if legit EB2 applicants don't talk to lawmakers and send emails to USCIS, we will be stuck here for years due to these fradulent porting.
Fully agree with each word you said. Many people with legit US education (not TVU kind that many not so educated people on this forum are taking shelter under the umbra of) who have been in the US for more than 10 years are still lawfully waiting in the line. And this idiot with a BCOM and MCA ( correspondence course from IGNOU) is dreaming of porting into EB2 and screw us up. Shame on USCIS and Shame on DOL. I am really concerned that if legit EB2 applicants don't talk to lawmakers and send emails to USCIS, we will be stuck here for years due to these fradulent porting.
jamesbond007
09-26 05:44 PM
Admins,
Thanks for your time and effort. But I believe your time could be utilized for other better causes than monitoring the comments made by the users by using the anonymous green/red dot system.
This internet forum is already anonymous for all the posts being made. Thjere is no way someone can tie a userid to an individual. Then why a separate dotting system that ends up eating your time when someone complains?
Someone's red dot feedback is only his/her opinion of the post; the same post could result in someone else's approval via a green dot.
Just let that feedback hang out there in the open along with the reviewer's ID.
Hopefully, by keeping it in the open, it will also make one to be more responsible in their choice of language while providing feedback.
This may not be a simple change of a switch/flag. But please consider it for the future enhancements of the site.
Thanks Lasantha for all your help. Even after getting your green card you continue to participate and help others in this struggle. That is Great. For the sake of disclosure here are some of the messages you left for other members. I think that these messages are extremely abusive and very harsh as compared to the message left for you. Although we do not encourage the use of words like moron, stupid, idiot, we see these words being used often on the forum.
Lasantha 02:39, 23rd Sep 2007 -23 Ass hole !!!
Lasantha 10:59, 14th Nov 2007 -27 Eat Crap you bastard!
Lasantha 00:54, 19th Nov 2007 -27 DUMBASS YOURSELF!!!
Lasantha 17:03, 5th Dec 2007 -28 WTF
Lasantha 18:05, 14th Jan 2008 -39 WTF is wrong with you?
Lasantha 16:06, 11th Mar 2008 -45 Wacko???
Lasantha 21:29, 18th Mar 2008 -52 what the fuck???
You be the judge the let us know if you want to know the user who left you that remark. We will go ahead and post that on this thread. And for the sake of fairness, we will also post the members for whom you left the above messages. You be the judge and decide.
Thanks for your understanding.
Thanks for your time and effort. But I believe your time could be utilized for other better causes than monitoring the comments made by the users by using the anonymous green/red dot system.
This internet forum is already anonymous for all the posts being made. Thjere is no way someone can tie a userid to an individual. Then why a separate dotting system that ends up eating your time when someone complains?
Someone's red dot feedback is only his/her opinion of the post; the same post could result in someone else's approval via a green dot.
Just let that feedback hang out there in the open along with the reviewer's ID.
Hopefully, by keeping it in the open, it will also make one to be more responsible in their choice of language while providing feedback.
This may not be a simple change of a switch/flag. But please consider it for the future enhancements of the site.
Thanks Lasantha for all your help. Even after getting your green card you continue to participate and help others in this struggle. That is Great. For the sake of disclosure here are some of the messages you left for other members. I think that these messages are extremely abusive and very harsh as compared to the message left for you. Although we do not encourage the use of words like moron, stupid, idiot, we see these words being used often on the forum.
Lasantha 02:39, 23rd Sep 2007 -23 Ass hole !!!
Lasantha 10:59, 14th Nov 2007 -27 Eat Crap you bastard!
Lasantha 00:54, 19th Nov 2007 -27 DUMBASS YOURSELF!!!
Lasantha 17:03, 5th Dec 2007 -28 WTF
Lasantha 18:05, 14th Jan 2008 -39 WTF is wrong with you?
Lasantha 16:06, 11th Mar 2008 -45 Wacko???
Lasantha 21:29, 18th Mar 2008 -52 what the fuck???
You be the judge the let us know if you want to know the user who left you that remark. We will go ahead and post that on this thread. And for the sake of fairness, we will also post the members for whom you left the above messages. You be the judge and decide.
Thanks for your understanding.
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bugsbunny
04-19 11:36 AM
Fully agree with each word you said. Many people with legit US education (not TVU kind that many not so educated people on this forum are taking shelter under the umbra of) who have been in the US for more than 10 years are still lawfully waiting in the line. And this idiot with a BCOM and MCA ( correspondence course from IGNOU) is dreaming of porting into EB2 and screw us up. Shame on USCIS and Shame on DOL. I am really concerned that if legit EB2 applicants don't talk to lawmakers and send emails to USCIS, we will be stuck here for years due to these fradulent porting.
I don't get why you are so affected by this?
First its not porting...its a new EB2 application
It should make no difference to your precious application and position in the line as you are supposedly already EB2.
The only people that are affected are EB3...why are you up in arms?
I don't get why you are so affected by this?
First its not porting...its a new EB2 application
It should make no difference to your precious application and position in the line as you are supposedly already EB2.
The only people that are affected are EB3...why are you up in arms?
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ashatara78
03-10 07:40 PM
The next step should be to reply to the senator mentioning that the data is ambiguous and asking for a more clear response. Is it I-140 or I-485, does it include families etc. etc.
Also explain to them that based on these numbers, it will take X years for a person to get a GC and that the system needs reform.
I have worked with a senator's office for a completely different matter and they are very responsive - since you have caught their attention and already have a file open, it will be helpful to respond with a concise letter so that you can get more accurate information.
Also explain to them that based on these numbers, it will take X years for a person to get a GC and that the system needs reform.
I have worked with a senator's office for a completely different matter and they are very responsive - since you have caught their attention and already have a file open, it will be helpful to respond with a concise letter so that you can get more accurate information.
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Chiser99
06-07 04:37 PM
Ah ok. I assumed it was like a "skin" as in a redesign of the case like the U2 iPod, as opposed to a case skin.
Those stick on skins are pretty cool actually, they didnt exist when i used to have an iPod
Those stick on skins are pretty cool actually, they didnt exist when i used to have an iPod
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maddipati1
09-25 03:52 PM
those who are defending IV has more green dots coz, they are the ones who do all the volunteer work and involve actively.
get it! now can u rest for a while not ur case :-)
Just an observation -
Folks who are defending IV has a lot of Green dots -
I rest my case.
get it! now can u rest for a while not ur case :-)
Just an observation -
Folks who are defending IV has a lot of Green dots -
I rest my case.
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When485
04-01 09:05 PM
All our I485 applications had a soft LUD of today. Recently I applied EAD for my son and it got approved within 15 days. One of my friends got LUD and later (after 2 days) a Hard LUD that they sent an RFE. Our SC is Nebraska. some of my friends also had got Soft LUD 2 weeks before but no change inside... Not sure what is awaiting us. Hopefully its all pre-adjudication. Any insights will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
Thanks
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gctest
10-03 09:08 PM
Were you born in a dumpster? You are assuming so many things here.
Whatever Kumar1 may apply to some F-1 students, but not to the cream of the crop.
Nobody asked me if I have immigration intent... they saw that i had I-20 from Cornell, MIT & UMBC and simply asked "Why cornell?". And before i could say anything she smiled and said "welcome to united states"... hah..suck on that
i bet that "jangli maharaj university" you got your diploma from is making your entire family very proud :):):):)
Hey, you lied to the American Immigration that you will return to the home country after Ph.d. And now you are talking about who should port and who not. Relax and think.
Whatever Kumar1 may apply to some F-1 students, but not to the cream of the crop.
Nobody asked me if I have immigration intent... they saw that i had I-20 from Cornell, MIT & UMBC and simply asked "Why cornell?". And before i could say anything she smiled and said "welcome to united states"... hah..suck on that
i bet that "jangli maharaj university" you got your diploma from is making your entire family very proud :):):):)
Hey, you lied to the American Immigration that you will return to the home country after Ph.d. And now you are talking about who should port and who not. Relax and think.
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roseball
04-18 10:45 PM
I am happy about OP's Green card. I want to get some answers for some questions, been in this country for 16 years, wan't to get my Green card man(june 2003)
AFAIK, the GC job has to be a permanent full-time position and not a part-time position.
AFAIK, the GC job has to be a permanent full-time position and not a part-time position.
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swamy
11-19 02:19 PM
I thought SPCL too documented his lies very well. As I said earlier, some people are shameless and lack common decency - it's worse when they have a tv show to boot! They keep repeating discredited theories and lies ad-nauseum until the opposition tires out and gives in
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07-15 09:55 PM
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09-17 01:29 PM
are you sure?
If today its approved in the house..we are done..it goes the Prez for signing and we all add another card to our wallets:o
If today its approved in the house..we are done..it goes the Prez for signing and we all add another card to our wallets:o
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kumarc123
01-09 09:14 AM
You're right. No offence but no authority seems to be listening to IV suggestions. I agree that people at IV are doing great job, but the problem is nobody is listening. They just don't care. And this think will go on & on. I remember s'body suggesting hunger strike and at that point of time I thought that won't work. But now it seems we have to go extreme and do hunger strike and stuff to pressurize this crappy system.
EB3 people don't think I am being selfish here. The truth is we have to work unitely and pressurize for visa recapture. That will be beneficial for e'body.
Lets target the 'Asses' asking for a kick. Let's all kick ass.
I totally agree with you, I used to visit IV a lot, but was just disappointed with the results from some of its members. Not to blame IV core team, but other members who would just come and read blogs. Specially EAD holder's, I hope their eyes are opening up to new realities. Yesterday, my sister in law entered USA from Newark Airport and she witnessed three people holding HIB visas get cancelled at the immigration point, one had EAD.
All we Desi's want is a free ride, same old mentality, don't want to put in any diligence in this matter, but very quick on pointing short comings on others. Blame game!
Point is, we all need to do something radical, sending flowers again and holding a hunger strike, otherwise, keep coming to IV and keep getting disappointed.
Papu, maybe you can hold something up for once. Schedule a date for some event.
EB3 people don't think I am being selfish here. The truth is we have to work unitely and pressurize for visa recapture. That will be beneficial for e'body.
Lets target the 'Asses' asking for a kick. Let's all kick ass.
I totally agree with you, I used to visit IV a lot, but was just disappointed with the results from some of its members. Not to blame IV core team, but other members who would just come and read blogs. Specially EAD holder's, I hope their eyes are opening up to new realities. Yesterday, my sister in law entered USA from Newark Airport and she witnessed three people holding HIB visas get cancelled at the immigration point, one had EAD.
All we Desi's want is a free ride, same old mentality, don't want to put in any diligence in this matter, but very quick on pointing short comings on others. Blame game!
Point is, we all need to do something radical, sending flowers again and holding a hunger strike, otherwise, keep coming to IV and keep getting disappointed.
Papu, maybe you can hold something up for once. Schedule a date for some event.
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nogc_noproblem
03-13 01:17 PM
Awesome
Folks,
This my copyright and very much pertain to our situation:
*********************
I left my world in search of prosperity
The prosperity is taking an eternity
My struggle is long and daunting
Making it more and more frustrating
Life at times seems uncontrollable
Flowing with the time unstoppable
Graying hairs testify for the feeling
Fat belly making me further unappealing
Sometimes I think of going back
Try to gather the courage that I lack
But the world I left is not the same any more.
And the world I am in, has lost its lure.
I am on the crossroad of my life
One is forward, one is left and other is right.
I don�t like the choices shown
May be I would have to create a world of my own
***************
Thanks
Folks,
This my copyright and very much pertain to our situation:
*********************
I left my world in search of prosperity
The prosperity is taking an eternity
My struggle is long and daunting
Making it more and more frustrating
Life at times seems uncontrollable
Flowing with the time unstoppable
Graying hairs testify for the feeling
Fat belly making me further unappealing
Sometimes I think of going back
Try to gather the courage that I lack
But the world I left is not the same any more.
And the world I am in, has lost its lure.
I am on the crossroad of my life
One is forward, one is left and other is right.
I don�t like the choices shown
May be I would have to create a world of my own
***************
Thanks
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akhilmahajan
01-30 04:43 PM
hopefully everybody votes.
done my part. will vote again once i reach home. need to vote for my wife ;)
done my part. will vote again once i reach home. need to vote for my wife ;)
kumar1
08-20 03:18 PM
My 4 year old would sponsor my GC after 17 years. I have already made her sign the paper work. Who knows, after living 21 years in this country, she can change her mind too.:D:D:D
logiclife
06-07 01:24 AM
Is immigration a right? ABSOLUTELY.
Well, over the past few months we have heard a lot of sound bites like �Immigration is a privilege, not a right�. �We are a country of immigrants but we are also a country of laws.� We will see about that in moment when we look at history and find out how lawful immigration has historically been.
Let�s focus on one thing sorely missing from our community: The sense of entitlement.
A lot of employment based immigrants in this country, legally here, on H1, L1, J1 etc. have asked themselves, �What right do I have to ask for change in laws or relief from congress? I am not even a citizen. Lobby congress? As an alien? Are you kidding me? Do you want to get deported? Do you realize you are going �against� the Government?�
Therein comes the lack of sense of entitlement.
First of all, legally speaking, there is no distinction between the constitutional rights of citizens and the constitutional rights of those who are non-citizens � legal or illegal. (Non-citizens are also called �aliens�, but I refrain from using that word whenever I remember coz none of us look like characters of Star Wars and we are not green-headed animals with 6 limbs, so I don�t consider myself an alien just because I was born somewhere else on the same planet).
Second of all, as a person within the jurisdiction of the United States, the first amendment actually prohibits the congress from making any laws against stated rights � one of which is the right to petition the Government for redress of grievances. So not only its legal to do what we are doing, it unconstitutional to pass a law to make it illegal for us to petition (or lobby, advocate, litigate) government for a redress of grievances. And that first amendment isn�t changing, coz to change it, its going to need two-thirds of US congress and three-fourths of states to back it. And we all know, how lucky we are to have 51 senators agree on the fact that sun rises from the east.
Earned Right or Birthright?
The fact that you are here and you are here legally and working with the system to earn immigration is something you should be proud of. Not guilty of. If you treat yourself as guests, the government will treat you like a guest. I would rather treat myself two times the citizen. Why, coz it simply much harder to earn a citizenship than to be born into it. I believe that not only we deserve fair and speedy immigration, but also when we do become citizens we should have the privilege to give two votes in elections. Now, I am not trying to display chutzpah here. I am going to back up my claim with reason. See, a lot of us came here 5-10 years ago with almost no money. Many of us never received any formal education in America. However, we have been able to survive and keep a job in this country, even during the stock market crash of 2001 and the economic recession after that. No small feat. We are the last ones to leave the office at night (Actually, that is true for both legal and illegal workers, coz the legal computer programmer is still coding Java at 7:00 PM while the illegal janitor starts vacuuming the office). We relocate across states as-if its relocating 2 traffic lights away. We adapt to different employers, we adapt to all employers. And all these without driving down the wages. Yes, it�s true. We don�t depress the wages and we don�t steal jobs and the labor certification is designed to prevent that and it�s working. We all know how great its working and how intense the process is, especially those who are stuck in Philly and Dallas backlog creation centers.
So, to sum it up, we have twice to right to petition the government for a redress of grievances, twice the right to everything. It�s an earned right, not a birthright. Our natural instinct should be to exercise the rights we have earned. If we cannot do it now, we are not going to really make anything out of citizenship of Greencard that we are pursuing.
And coming back to the sound bites about privileges and �Nation of laws� coming out of Washington today, let me say this: The pilgrims, who dropped anchor near Cape Cod in 1620 didn�t go through a port of entry and get their passports stamped and their I-94s stapled. I don�t think the Indians were waiting at the coast of Virginia to stop immigrants. They just came. And they settled. And they called it home. No priority dates. No visa bulletins.
So you see, what really matters here is whether you feel you are entitled to something or not. If you don�t feel entitled to a fair immigration process that does justice to those who seek legal ways to immigration, then you probably aren�t entitled. To ask for something, you must first believe that you deserve it. And to show that you deserve it, you must ask it loudly and clearly from rooftops. Don�t predict visa bulletins, but work to change and influence the visa bulletin 6 months from now. And no, you wont be deported for exercising that constitutional right.
�Our ancestors ... possessed a right, which nature has given to all men, of departing from the country in which chance, not choice has placed them.�
� Thomas Jefferson (1743�1826, 3d President of the United States, author of the Declaration of Independence)
Well, over the past few months we have heard a lot of sound bites like �Immigration is a privilege, not a right�. �We are a country of immigrants but we are also a country of laws.� We will see about that in moment when we look at history and find out how lawful immigration has historically been.
Let�s focus on one thing sorely missing from our community: The sense of entitlement.
A lot of employment based immigrants in this country, legally here, on H1, L1, J1 etc. have asked themselves, �What right do I have to ask for change in laws or relief from congress? I am not even a citizen. Lobby congress? As an alien? Are you kidding me? Do you want to get deported? Do you realize you are going �against� the Government?�
Therein comes the lack of sense of entitlement.
First of all, legally speaking, there is no distinction between the constitutional rights of citizens and the constitutional rights of those who are non-citizens � legal or illegal. (Non-citizens are also called �aliens�, but I refrain from using that word whenever I remember coz none of us look like characters of Star Wars and we are not green-headed animals with 6 limbs, so I don�t consider myself an alien just because I was born somewhere else on the same planet).
Second of all, as a person within the jurisdiction of the United States, the first amendment actually prohibits the congress from making any laws against stated rights � one of which is the right to petition the Government for redress of grievances. So not only its legal to do what we are doing, it unconstitutional to pass a law to make it illegal for us to petition (or lobby, advocate, litigate) government for a redress of grievances. And that first amendment isn�t changing, coz to change it, its going to need two-thirds of US congress and three-fourths of states to back it. And we all know, how lucky we are to have 51 senators agree on the fact that sun rises from the east.
Earned Right or Birthright?
The fact that you are here and you are here legally and working with the system to earn immigration is something you should be proud of. Not guilty of. If you treat yourself as guests, the government will treat you like a guest. I would rather treat myself two times the citizen. Why, coz it simply much harder to earn a citizenship than to be born into it. I believe that not only we deserve fair and speedy immigration, but also when we do become citizens we should have the privilege to give two votes in elections. Now, I am not trying to display chutzpah here. I am going to back up my claim with reason. See, a lot of us came here 5-10 years ago with almost no money. Many of us never received any formal education in America. However, we have been able to survive and keep a job in this country, even during the stock market crash of 2001 and the economic recession after that. No small feat. We are the last ones to leave the office at night (Actually, that is true for both legal and illegal workers, coz the legal computer programmer is still coding Java at 7:00 PM while the illegal janitor starts vacuuming the office). We relocate across states as-if its relocating 2 traffic lights away. We adapt to different employers, we adapt to all employers. And all these without driving down the wages. Yes, it�s true. We don�t depress the wages and we don�t steal jobs and the labor certification is designed to prevent that and it�s working. We all know how great its working and how intense the process is, especially those who are stuck in Philly and Dallas backlog creation centers.
So, to sum it up, we have twice to right to petition the government for a redress of grievances, twice the right to everything. It�s an earned right, not a birthright. Our natural instinct should be to exercise the rights we have earned. If we cannot do it now, we are not going to really make anything out of citizenship of Greencard that we are pursuing.
And coming back to the sound bites about privileges and �Nation of laws� coming out of Washington today, let me say this: The pilgrims, who dropped anchor near Cape Cod in 1620 didn�t go through a port of entry and get their passports stamped and their I-94s stapled. I don�t think the Indians were waiting at the coast of Virginia to stop immigrants. They just came. And they settled. And they called it home. No priority dates. No visa bulletins.
So you see, what really matters here is whether you feel you are entitled to something or not. If you don�t feel entitled to a fair immigration process that does justice to those who seek legal ways to immigration, then you probably aren�t entitled. To ask for something, you must first believe that you deserve it. And to show that you deserve it, you must ask it loudly and clearly from rooftops. Don�t predict visa bulletins, but work to change and influence the visa bulletin 6 months from now. And no, you wont be deported for exercising that constitutional right.
�Our ancestors ... possessed a right, which nature has given to all men, of departing from the country in which chance, not choice has placed them.�
� Thomas Jefferson (1743�1826, 3d President of the United States, author of the Declaration of Independence)
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